#tari-dev [2018-06-14 11:00:36] → Joined channel #tari-dev [2018-06-14 11:00:37] * Channel mode is +cnt [2018-06-14 11:00:37] * Channel timestamp is 1526921927 [2018-06-14 11:34:02] ⇐ Keniyal quit (~Keniyal@unaffiliated/keniyal): Remote host closed the connection [2018-06-14 13:52:29] → m8tion joined (~Agence@abo-134-110-68.mrs.modulonet.fr) [2018-06-14 17:24:16] → unknownids_ joined (unknownids@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/unknownids) [2018-06-14 17:27:50] ⇐ unknownids quit (unknownids@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/unknownids): Ping timeout: 260 seconds [2018-06-14 17:30:15] ⇐ p0nziph0ne quit (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne): Ping timeout: 245 seconds [2018-06-14 17:44:17] → p0nziph0ne joined (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne) [2018-06-14 19:05:05] → __jnsmk__ joined (~jnsmk@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-06-14 19:18:10] ⇐ m8tion quit (~Agence@abo-134-110-68.mrs.modulonet.fr): Read error: Connection reset by peer 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timestamp is 1526921927 [2018-10-24 19:24:06] Hey everyone! I know it's been quiet in here the last few months, but that's all about to change! Starting at 11:00 CAT (GMT+2), we'll be starting a dev discussion around the high-level Tari architecture and get all your input on where the project should be headed. Hopefully we'll see you all then. [2018-10-24 19:25:50] → DaveyJones joined (sid255765@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aeffliqewhineonw) [2018-10-24 19:26:00] → pigeons joined (~pigeons@androzani.sysevolve.com) [2018-10-24 19:28:11] → scoobybejesus joined (sid271506@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yjdqaqarwsmzvtdg) [2018-10-24 19:32:23] → selsta joined (sid124829@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikwuadhzcrjninaj) [2018-10-24 19:43:16] → needmoney90 joined (sid289137@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkkddiroexymzpbi) [2018-10-24 19:57:33] Nice, internet just had to have a cat time. [2018-10-24 20:39:37] → nagrom1981_ joined (nagrom1981@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nagrom1981) [2018-10-24 20:48:52] ⇐ nagrom1981 quit (nagrom1981@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nagrom1981): *.net *.split [2018-10-24 20:48:53] ⇐ moneromooo quit (fluffypony@unaffiliated/moneromooo): *.net *.split [2018-10-24 20:54:33] → moneromooo joined (fluffypony@primary.spagni.net) [2018-10-24 20:55:18] * moneromooo → Guest62571 [2018-10-24 20:55:45] ⇐ Guest62571 quit (fluffypony@primary.spagni.net): Changing host [2018-10-24 20:55:45] → Guest62571 joined (fluffypony@unaffiliated/moneromooo) [2018-10-24 20:56:00] * Guest62571 → moneromooo [2018-10-25 03:17:28] → enigmisto joined (49effffa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.239.255.250) [2018-10-25 03:36:03] → kim0 joined (uid105149@ubuntu/member/kim0) [2018-10-25 03:38:27] → medusa_ joined (sid255755@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npslzokicfjyzren) [2018-10-25 06:11:52] I'm excited about monero and excited about what I know so far about tari. I'm a programmer, but I hate programming in C. Is there any meaningful way that someone like me could contribute? [2018-10-25 06:53:16] → minamoo joined (uid322540@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyfznjzzghdiwguf) [2018-10-25 07:04:47] @enigmisto what languages are you familiar with? We're mostly using rust [2018-10-25 07:06:07] I'd potentially be interested in learning Rust, but my preferred language is Clojure which runs on the JVM. [2018-10-25 07:06:22] I didn't realize your codebase was Rust. Is that true for Monero too, or just Tari? [2018-10-25 07:08:25] I've programmed in many languages, and can pick up any language relatively quickly, but I most enjoy high-level functional languages. I've been curious about Rust for a while though, so this could be a good excuse to learn it. [2018-10-25 07:09:45] Monero is written in C++ [2018-10-25 07:11:05] Does Tari build upon Monero at the source code level, or at the protocol level? [2018-10-25 07:11:49] It will be merge mined with Monero but other than that it will be a separate protocol [2018-10-25 07:12:37] I see. So how far along is Tari? Still really early days, or is a lot of it already solidified? [2018-10-25 07:13:02] Very very early days [2018-10-25 07:13:16] Fun! [2018-10-25 07:14:24] Well I'm personally more likely to learn Rust to contribute to Tari than to write C++ for Monero. But is there any use/relevance for a JVM language for Monero-related projects? [2018-10-25 07:22:41] Learning rust will probably be worth while, it's gaining in popularity. I'm not sure of any JVM monero projects myself [2018-10-25 09:39:53] → jnsmk joined (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-10-25 09:45:57] → x0100_ joined (4d38242c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.56.36.44) [2018-10-25 09:51:02] *tumbleweed passes by* [2018-10-25 09:58:56] See you all in about an hour. Excited to kick things off [2018-10-25 10:03:33] Oh so I actually didn't miss it. Cool ! [2018-10-25 10:12:32] enigmisto: I was talking about a Java alternative tx verification system yesterday, based on the existing bulletproof java code. The idea was to add enough verification code to check no monero is being printed out of thin air due to some bug in monero code (hence this system being a separate code base). It could be in any language, but Java already has a BPs PoC from sarang. [2018-10-25 10:12:55] If you're interested, try #monero-dev for more. [2018-10-25 10:13:29] Actually, #monero-research-lab, looks like there was more talk of this overnight. [2018-10-25 10:15:10] (nvm, -dev is better after reading. Sorry for off-topic.) [2018-10-25 11:00:49] → lessless joined (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless) [2018-10-25 11:02:11] Hi [2018-10-25 11:03:05] hi frenz [2018-10-25 11:04:27] Hey [2018-10-25 11:04:59] Ok, let's kick things off. To begin with today, we'd like to get some ideas rolling on what the very high-level architecture for Tari will look like. To build out this picture, however, it's probably pertinent to get an idea of what Tari should do as a protocol. [2018-10-25 11:06:15] If we consider that The Tari protocol is all about *native digital assets*. So the architecture should really support the particular requirements of a digital assets platform. [2018-10-25 11:07:03] so...Ethereum? [2018-10-25 11:07:04] :-P [2018-10-25 11:07:30] * ChanServ set +o cjs77 [2018-10-25 11:07:40] Haha [2018-10-25 11:09:05] → TheCharlatan joined (~TheCharla@109.236.87.57) [2018-10-25 11:12:18] I had in mind from the start that Tari was about issuance of non fungible tokens [2018-10-25 11:12:44] → Blackwolfsa joined (sid307900@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uvahydhrhjyjbtab) [2018-10-25 11:15:43] → neonknight joined (uid318979@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-syuueaiedtswwfgf) [2018-10-25 11:16:52] well fungible and non-fungible [2018-10-25 11:16:58] I don't see why it shouldn't be able to do both [2018-10-25 11:17:17] if you can solve for non-fungible then you're effectively solving for fungible, given sufficient privacy [2018-10-25 11:18:27] That is a fact indeed [2018-10-25 11:18:30] So what kind of NFTs or digital assets might Tari want to handle; and what would the user expectation for interacting with those be? [2018-10-25 11:18:30] e.g.: for tickets, there tends to be very high demand on the network when tickets go on-sale (suggesting we need high throughput), but also when tickets get redeemed, the validation and redemption of the ticket needs to happen really quickly (so that queues of people can move quickly) [2018-10-25 11:20:20] What about card games for example ? [2018-10-25 11:20:29] same goes for ICO tokens / security tokens, there's that massive throughput during a token sale [2018-10-25 11:20:50] jnsmk: I think they'd have non-fungibility and ease of transfer properties [2018-10-25 11:20:53] in-game items? if Tari will be doing any of that [2018-10-25 11:20:59] minamoo: definitely [2018-10-25 11:21:18] card games and in-game items have similar properties [2018-10-25 11:21:27] I suspect loyalty points and in-game currencies do, too [2018-10-25 11:21:29] otoh, in-game items might have significant amounts of metadata attached to it (e.g. graphics), and tons of state (item history / experience); so there needs to be some way of effectively managing that state. In this case, I hope it's clear that it would be nuts to expect *every* node to manage *every* digital asset (so... NOT Ethereuem, @fluffypony ;) ) [2018-10-25 11:21:43] Though I know you knew that :-) [2018-10-25 11:21:58] cjs77: does that metadata need to be expressed in Tari in any meaningful way? [2018-10-25 11:22:02] why can't it just be a hash of some data set? [2018-10-25 11:22:24] Yeah, I think that's a reasonable approach [2018-10-25 11:22:26] I don't see the need either, hash can just be a key to locally stored asset amirite ? [2018-10-25 11:22:28] we just need to prove the state of it [2018-10-25 11:24:16] but someone still needs to deliver that metadata at some point. If it's a single game server, and the asset issuer is happy with that, then so be it. Other issuers may want some redundancy, but I think the Tari protocol can be agnostic about that in general [2018-10-25 11:24:17] Blackwolfsa: you mean the state of individual metadata pieces, or the state overall? [2018-10-25 11:28:04] So the Tari token should rather focus on storing the ownership information and a unique identifier or DNA of the actual media content [2018-10-25 11:29:15] @fluffypony that bring up an interesting question. Proving state overall should be easy, but state of each individual meta data piece will not be trivial. But what happens when you change one meta data piece, then the whole thing becomes "changed". This might be one of those things that can be a case by case thing depending on the meta data [2018-10-25 11:29:19] Is it ok to just agree on a size of the metadata that individual token can hold? [2018-10-25 11:29:37] Yup I was thinking that, we need to prove ownership and carry some basic informations (in case of IG token would be an UUID for that item for example) [2018-10-25 11:30:05] +lessless or that indeed [2018-10-25 11:30:12] Metadata aside, there is still state that needs to be tracked, which is non-negligible. Let's say a concert has 10,000 tickets. At the minimum, someone needs to track who owns each of the 10,000 tickets and redemption state (has it been used). [2018-10-25 11:30:49] and some inherent conditions under which it can be transferred? [2018-10-25 11:31:22] proving ownership is a topic of a paramount importance! how to prove that only one person owns an asset? [2018-10-25 11:31:28] Is it fair to say that it's infeasible to have this state data live on a blockchain? [2018-10-25 11:31:38] ^ on the base layer, at least [2018-10-25 11:32:09] will every node be required to track that or can there be e.g nodes that issue, nodes that track state, and relay info or will that be convoluted? [2018-10-25 11:32:26] cjs77 ownership transfer should be secured as much as possible [2018-10-25 11:32:43] lessless: If we track the public key of an owner, a simple digital signature by the owner will suffice [2018-10-25 11:33:55] cjs77 what about receiving reoccurring dividends - should it be possible to verify ownership automatically, so payments can go through w/o any delay? [2018-10-25 11:34:45] Can you explain a bit more? I'm not sure I follow your use case. Are you talking about a hypothetical security token? [2018-10-25 11:34:55] → Inge- joined (~inge@ti0051a400-1643.bb.online.no) [2018-10-25 11:35:10] minamoo: which bit, the metadata or the ownership? [2018-10-25 11:35:18] → mauriez joined (sid2375@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jtstfjapqopdxfdb) [2018-10-25 11:36:40] minamoo: imho, I think it would be crazy to expect every node to track every state change. It's one of the main issues with ethereum. [2018-10-25 11:37:38] what if we had a merkle tree [2018-10-25 11:37:49] and each bit of metadata was represented on that tree [2018-10-25 11:37:53] and then only the merkle root changes [2018-10-25 11:37:53] fluffypony: I was refering to the ownership aspect as per the example that csj77 gave about tracking ticket states [2018-10-25 11:38:09] And ETH don't even have "that much" tokens. In case of wide adoption only for concert tickets, with everything happening in only one big city if would be crazy amount to track [2018-10-25 11:38:49] to be clear though, Tari transfers (Tari being the fungible token of the network) should proceed via usual consensus [2018-10-25 11:38:50] minamoo: I think that "state" is often somewhat localised, eg. the only people that care about the redemption state of a ticket are the people at the gate and the people buying tickets in the parking lot, and they can connect to a single server or a cluster of servers [2018-10-25 11:39:31] → MoroccanMalinois joined (~admin@51.15.178.6) [2018-10-25 11:40:01] → Hansie joined (uid312194@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-buauwwhgcqadmtfb) [2018-10-25 11:40:53] @fluffypony in the case of tickets I see the localisation. I see less localisation in the case of an MMORPG somehow [2018-10-25 11:41:23] jnsmk: well they're still "localised" wrt to needing to hit a central server / group of servers right? [2018-10-25 11:41:39] cjs77 I just think that it should be possible to verify ownership without owner signing anything off [2018-10-25 11:41:41] → sloppyjoan195 joined (~kevoulee@dsl-197-245-173-212.voxdsl.co.za) [2018-10-25 11:41:53] That's right [2018-10-25 11:42:36] fluffypony what if those are tickets for the online webinar? then auditory can be geographically distributes. There are a bunch of online learning classes with limited number of seats [2018-10-25 11:43:00] lessless: to clarify I didn't mean geographically localised [2018-10-25 11:43:07] I meant that localised among a small group of people [2018-10-25 11:43:17] ah, thanks, got it [2018-10-25 11:43:18] lessless: Do you mean "I just think it should be possible for a central party to track down a target without the target's knowledge" ? [2018-10-25 11:43:39] Would that mean that somehow only the localised interested people would maintain the state of ownership and for example only the supply information would be globally stored ? [2018-10-25 11:44:00] jnsmk: I think what cjs77 is correct, ownership is a special state and should use consensus [2018-10-25 11:44:09] but something like "is this ticket redeemed" is not special [2018-10-25 11:44:17] and it can be shared among that localised group [2018-10-25 11:44:58] moneromooo fair enough [2018-10-25 11:44:58] fluffypony: the merkle root is perfect for "checkpointing" DA state. Then if I want to make a request to the network that says "Who owns ticket 5124 for asset #a3fabb212344?", then a node tracking that state must reply with a result and a merkle proof; and it's easy to verify. [2018-10-25 11:45:32] → AlexAnarcho joined (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149) [2018-10-25 11:47:48] sup everybody [2018-10-25 11:48:50] Since it's silent now, I think thought should be given to how old stuff is going to get kicked off the chain after it gets obsolete. Like all these concert tickets should not be taking space long after the concert is over. [2018-10-25 11:48:56] → hahsun joined (~hpekdemir@fw-eth3.lls.for-the-inter.net) [2018-10-25 11:48:59] hi all [2018-10-25 11:49:26] moneromooo: well [2018-10-25 11:49:27] yes and no [2018-10-25 11:49:33] so special states would need to be defined and node functionality, correct? The state ("is this ticket redeemed") determining which node to query (ie. "localised" or every node)? [2018-10-25 11:49:34] So, a way to excise a prticular asset type (or most of it) from the chain at some (possibly predetermined) time. [2018-10-25 11:49:41] what if you went to the last Michael Jackson concert and want to keep your ticket stub? [2018-10-25 11:50:15] You can keep a local proof. [2018-10-25 11:50:18] and if we're doing it the MimbleWimble way then just the kernel is stored to represent ownership [2018-10-25 11:50:24] — fluffypony ponders [2018-10-25 11:50:48] and for auditing purposes by the promoters and artists? There could be a way to archive stuff though and just store a merkle root of it? [2018-10-25 11:50:50] A local proof might need chain input though... [2018-10-25 11:50:59] We still need possibility to "burn" assets [2018-10-25 11:51:34] jnsmk: agreed [2018-10-25 11:51:48] maybe the asset issuer can mark it as "burnable"? [2018-10-25 11:51:52] Consider the case of ingame item that can be broken by a "durability" system of whatever [2018-10-25 11:52:14] That's just a piece of state though [2018-10-25 11:52:49] Subchains might fix the "old stuff takes space" problem. [2018-10-25 11:53:00] → lessless_ joined (~lessless@171.250.191.232) [2018-10-25 11:53:01] However that might work ^_^ [2018-10-25 11:53:02] The game can limit the use of that asset, even if the asset still exists [2018-10-25 11:53:17] jnsmk: in principle, the "durability" field could be updated in the DA state [2018-10-25 11:56:09] It might be more "responsive" to give the possibility to completely forget it though, not sure [2018-10-25 11:57:45] Not sure if ownership of a ticket can live in the Mimblewimble base layer though, maybe just a merkle root pointing to a persistent data set somewhere. Don't we need a 2nd layer for assets? [2018-10-25 11:57:51] It seems like there needs to be two (at least) layers: A base layer that tracks low volume data that needs to be highly secure, e.g. Tari token ownership; DA checkpoints; etc. [2018-10-25 11:57:51] and a state management layer that keeps local track of all DA state (that the node cares about), can handle state change instructions and can interacts with a base layer as needed. This 2nd layer can be much more centralised, since we're not as concerned with security as we are with performance and speed, but the base layer is there to fall back on in case of issues. [2018-10-25 11:58:49] cjs77: yeah agreed - hence moneromooo's subchains suggestion [2018-10-25 11:58:57] how will a new node get the latest state of the digital assets [2018-10-25 11:59:03] mikethetike: "sharding" [2018-10-25 11:59:52] mikethetike: It would have to request a sync and verify against the last checkpoint [2018-10-25 12:00:54] What if the asset owner willingly decides to mark an asset for destruction so he can claim a small deposit, like a glass bottle deposit? [2018-10-25 12:01:20] neonknight: that's a VERY interesting idea [2018-10-25 12:01:24] ⇐ mikethetike quit (sid308076@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxjyhhcodfoihpyw): Quit: Updating details, brb [2018-10-25 12:01:28] incentivised to save space [2018-10-25 12:02:27] "burn after reading" [2018-10-25 12:03:20] Some people might want to keep their ticket stubs for their collection, but the majority probably do not care. [2018-10-25 12:03:22] → mikethetike joined (sid308076@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxmzmcgktgjimcfk) [2018-10-25 12:03:47] ⇐ jnsmk quit (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr): Read error: Connection reset by peer [2018-10-25 12:04:20] neonknight: +1 [2018-10-25 12:04:44] → jnsmk joined (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-10-25 12:04:47] Similar to BEAM's re-usable Mimblewimble kernels, users being incentivized for it [2018-10-25 12:06:10] it could even be a nice prompted thing where the wallet is like "now that you've gone to the concert, do you want to keep your ticket stub or delete it and get a 1 Tari bonus?" [2018-10-25 12:07:00] That's great imo [2018-10-25 12:07:29] → OhGodAGirl joined (sid164689@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-efhvofvvctmipnlw) [2018-10-25 12:07:34] what about in-game items or cosmetics that remain. if i buy a skin i want it to remain in my possession and not disappear after first use [2018-10-25 12:08:15] Gotta make sure the 1 tari tx is smaller than the original ticket thing :) [2018-10-25 12:08:33] AlexAnarcho: those are going to have to live on, but tickets are temporal [2018-10-25 12:08:46] DRM tokens (eugh) is also temporal [2018-10-25 12:08:56] s/is/are [2018-10-25 12:09:08] @moneromooo it can probably be a % of the contract/amount of tickets thing [2018-10-25 12:10:03] Some other things to get some thoughts on re: the base layer: [2018-10-25 12:10:03] * implemented using a PoW chain merge-mined with Monero, [2018-10-25 12:10:03] * use MimbleWimble protocol [2018-10-25 12:10:41] One can even opt in for ticket stub deletion when the ticket is purchased, minimizing network interaction [2018-10-25 12:10:44] I like the merge-mining, would give great security right ? [2018-10-25 12:11:01] I think short of something else amazing being dropped on Tor in the next week, MW is the most sound, scalable "base layer" protocol we know [2018-10-25 12:11:07] jnsmk: yup [2018-10-25 12:11:26] But what if (and I don't hope that :D) monero network dies off ? [2018-10-25 12:11:32] Mimblewimble is great [2018-10-25 12:11:43] → p3t3_R joined (c5f5add4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.245.173.212) [2018-10-25 12:12:15] jnsmk: I think that's a disaster scenario, but merge-mined chains can continue independently [2018-10-25 12:12:43] presumably with weaker security, but if Monero is dying then the miners would switch to mining something else, possibly Tari, so not sure if it would even lead to weaker security [2018-10-25 12:12:51] but that's really an unimaginable scenario [2018-10-25 12:13:09] It was clearly just imagined :P [2018-10-25 12:13:29] lol [2018-10-25 12:13:32] unfathomable [2018-10-25 12:14:03] Yea I just wondered about the level of dependency of the mergemined network [2018-10-25 12:14:14] lol [2018-10-25 12:14:30] Then merge-mined seems like a great option to me given the high level of security that would be inherited from the first minute [2018-10-25 12:14:37] ^ this [2018-10-25 12:14:58] jnsmk: there's a Tari Labs University on merge mining [2018-10-25 12:15:08] Merged mining can also suffer from mining power centralization issues [2018-10-25 12:15:27] https://tari-labs.github.io/tari-university/merged-mining/merged-mining.html [2018-10-25 12:15:29] It must be distributed to multiple players [2018-10-25 12:15:36] https://tari-labs.github.io/tari-university/merged-mining/merged-mining-scene/MergedMiningIntroduction.html [2018-10-25 12:15:43] and there are various strategies we could employ if things go wrong. See the TLU writeup https://tari-labs.github.io/tari-university/merged-mining/merged-mining.html [2018-10-25 12:15:47] @fluffypony I indeed need to read up all the Tari book :D [2018-10-25 12:16:54] — cjs77 must get some lunch [2018-10-25 12:18:22] About the "redeeming for kickback" thing above. AIUI, MW removes "internal" links between original inputs and existing outputs. [2018-10-25 12:18:45] So, thinking about this redeeming a ticket for a kickback would not actually do much overall, would it ? [2018-10-25 12:19:01] — moneromooo doesn't know much about MW [2018-10-25 12:19:13] If it is the 2nd layer it might [2018-10-25 12:19:17] ^^ [2018-10-25 12:19:27] That would be for the fungible Tari on the base layer but for the non-fungible tokens you wouldnt want to prune [2018-10-25 12:19:41] unless its on purpose of course [2018-10-25 12:19:53] OK, so no MW for tickets and stuff, is what you're saying ? [2018-10-25 12:20:28] Yes, preferably all of that on a 2nd layer [2018-10-25 12:35:35] ok now I'm all architected out [2018-10-25 12:35:56] cjs77: do you want to have some sort of cadence for these discussions or just keep it ad-hoc? [2018-10-25 12:38:32] I also start to see the big picture. BTW I like what you guys are doing the the tari-university, it will surely give the opportunity to guys like me to contribute [2018-10-25 12:44:25] yes, the education is so essential! Great job, at first glance it looks very informative [2018-10-25 12:49:13] ⇐ jnsmk quit (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr): Read error: Connection reset by peer [2018-10-25 12:49:47] → jnsmk joined (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-10-25 12:50:20] FluffyPony: I suggest we keep things going adhoc, but keep this time every week as a "formal" discussion slot so as to maintain momentum. [2018-10-25 12:50:31] sounds good [2018-10-25 12:50:34] We can increase the frequency if needed [2018-10-25 12:50:41] weekly architecture meeting [2018-10-25 12:50:54] time might be inconvenient for Americans - thoughts on doing it a bit later? [2018-10-25 12:51:18] Also give some thought to an evening slot for Pacific folks to interact live [2018-10-25 12:54:57] What about Tuesdays 8pm and Thursdays 11am? [2018-10-25 12:55:48] Tuesday evenings are bad for me...Monday? [2018-10-25 12:55:53] +1 [2018-10-25 12:56:12] Jnsmk: glad you like tlu. That was the idea behind getting it going [2018-10-25 12:57:07] Monday is good [2018-10-25 12:57:20] kk [2018-10-25 12:59:31] logs for those that missed it? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/MyJRvustYF1Qt6dlpEIARg/raw [2018-10-25 12:59:54] → kico joined (~kicoo@unaffiliated/kico) [2018-10-25 13:28:01] ⇐ p3t3_R quit (c5f5add4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.245.173.212): Quit: Page closed [2018-10-25 13:38:09] → p3t3_R joined (c5f5add4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.245.173.212) [2018-10-25 13:38:27] ⇐ p3t3_R quit (c5f5add4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.245.173.212): Client Quit [2018-10-25 14:28:56] → havik joined (uid311481@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-srpuuqpbwnfcurcn) [2018-10-25 14:37:32] ⇐ lessless_ quit (~lessless@171.250.191.232): Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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[2018-10-25 15:24:07] ah yeah that was it [2018-10-25 15:39:04] ⇐ minamoo quit (uid322540@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyfznjzzghdiwguf): Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [2018-10-25 15:39:22] → sarang joined (sid248211@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-njerldzwfirfiyrp) [2018-10-25 15:39:43] → lurkinandlearnin joined (~lurkinand@2a02:c7d:b7d8:4100:7906:d073:6125:f07e) [2018-10-25 15:40:57] ← lurkinandlearnin left (~lurkinand@2a02:c7d:b7d8:4100:7906:d073:6125:f07e): "Leaving" [2018-10-25 15:41:09] → lurkinandlearnin joined (~lurkinand@2a02:c7d:b7d8:4100:7906:d073:6125:f07e) [2018-10-25 15:41:27] Hi, Sarang here from MRL [2018-10-25 15:41:51] I don't have previous log archives so I'll assume nothing interesting happened =p [2018-10-25 15:41:57] https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/MyJRvustYF1Qt6dlpEIARg/raw [2018-10-25 15:44:50] → endogenic joined (sid145991@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zqeihimycowbyhau) [2018-10-25 15:49:05] ty moneromooo [2018-10-25 16:16:49] → suraeNoether joined (sid231938@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-feausvaexokaofut) [2018-10-25 17:18:49] ⇐ AlexAnarcho quit (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149): Quit: Leaving [2018-10-25 17:55:48] ⇐ kim0 quit (uid105149@ubuntu/member/kim0): Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [2018-10-25 18:05:26] → stanimal joined (c56512ab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.197.101.18.171) [2018-10-25 18:06:33] ← stanimal left (c56512ab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.197.101.18.171): [2018-10-25 18:14:15] ⇐ lessless_ quit (~lessless@171.250.191.232): Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… [2018-10-25 18:34:50] ⇐ lurkinandlearnin quit (~lurkinand@2a02:c7d:b7d8:4100:7906:d073:6125:f07e): Quit: Leaving [2018-10-25 18:38:12] ⇐ hahsun quit (~hpekdemir@fw-eth3.lls.for-the-inter.net): Quit: leaving [2018-10-25 19:51:05] → qubenix joined (~qubenix@66.172.11.228) [2018-10-25 21:02:01] → rottensalty07 joined (~rottensal@unaffiliated/rottensalty07) [2018-10-25 21:19:07] ⇐ rottensalty07 quit (~rottensal@unaffiliated/rottensalty07): Quit: Leaving [2018-10-25 22:03:59] ⇐ kico quit (~kicoo@unaffiliated/kico): Read error: Connection reset by peer [2018-10-25 22:06:33] → kico joined (~kicoo@unaffiliated/kico) [2018-10-25 22:13:26] I'll collect the thoughts from this discussion over the next few days and put an RFC PR onto github. This should act as a good base to drive further discussion [2018-10-25 22:44:02] → jnsmka joined (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-10-25 22:46:54] ⇐ jnsmk quit (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr): Ping timeout: 252 seconds [2018-10-25 22:57:38] aww i missed it all :( [2018-10-25 22:58:46] There's a log, of which I lost the URL but others will have. 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ZZZzzz… [2018-10-26 10:01:26] Some further thoughts on the Digital Assets (2nd) layer: [2018-10-26 10:01:26] Assuming that DA layer doesn't need to be totally decentralised (in the sense that every node validates every instruction for every asset), [2018-10-26 10:01:26] but it does need to be really fast [2018-10-26 10:01:26] and really scalable (both in the number of assets the network can handle and the size of an individual asset set), [2018-10-26 10:01:26] and it needs to manage and synchronise on whatever state is stored in the DA, [2018-10-26 10:01:26] what does this 2nd layer look like? Here are some alternatives (and some thoughts): [2018-10-26 10:01:26] * Another blockchain on the 2nd layer (probably overkill and won't achieve goals of speed & scalability, esp if its PoW) [2018-10-26 10:01:26] * A State Channel network (e.g. Plasma. Too complex imho) [2018-10-26 10:01:26] * A type of DAG tracking DA instructions that get periodically checkpointed against the base layer. (Very interesting possiblity -- needs more discussion) [2018-10-26 10:01:26] * Distributed Hash Tables. DAs are "permissioned", and nodes just keep track of which nodes are processing which DAs in a DHT (super fast and scalable, but not a permissionless network, DA issuers must nominate trusted nodes to run their DAs for them) [2018-10-26 10:03:36] I suspect a DAG + DHT + Bonded contract approach may be able to achieve all the goals in the long run [2018-10-26 10:08:03] I should say that for the DAG case above, any suitable BFT consensus approach could be used. Ideas like PARSEC, HoneyBadgeBFT etc could also be looked at [2018-10-26 10:43:38] → lessless_ joined (~lessless@171.250.191.232) [2018-10-26 10:49:36] suraeNoether: you've done some research on DAGs haven't you? [2018-10-26 11:02:14] ⇐ lessless_ quit (~lessless@171.250.191.232): Ping timeout: 246 seconds [2018-10-26 12:35:40] → jnsmk joined (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-10-26 14:37:37] → kngako joined (9240080a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.64.8.10) [2018-10-26 15:38:47] suraeNoether and I have examined strategies from time to time [2018-10-26 15:39:25] Typically the issue is running into computation scaling issues with voting as the graph grows, depending on quickly you want consensus, and if the process is permitted to stall [2018-10-26 16:28:23] ⇐ kngako quit (9240080a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.64.8.10): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-10-26 19:28:38] → gagarin55 joined (~gagarin55@gateway/tor-sasl/gagarin55) [2018-10-26 19:28:47] Hi there [2018-10-26 19:29:45] I missed your architecture discussion yestoday [2018-10-26 19:33:43] Is there any docs ? [2018-10-26 20:01:50] ⇐ gagarin55 quit (~gagarin55@gateway/tor-sasl/gagarin55): Remote host closed the connection [2018-10-26 20:02:01] → gagarin55 joined (~gagarin55@gateway/tor-sasl/gagarin55) [2018-10-26 20:03:35] Hi there [2018-10-26 20:20:58] ⇐ gagarin55 quit (~gagarin55@gateway/tor-sasl/gagarin55): Quit: Leaving [2018-10-26 20:35:20] → gagarin55 joined (uid328436@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iirbdeyqaqtpizlj) [2018-10-26 20:37:59] ⇐ jnsmk quit (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr): Ping timeout: 246 seconds [2018-10-26 20:44:13] gagarin55: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/MyJRvustYF1Qt6dlpEIARg/raw [2018-10-26 22:31:12] I've noodled around a little bit with DAGs in a non-blockchain context, seems promising here. [2018-10-26 22:31:19] This may be a naive question - since the base chain is censorship-resistant, do the 2nd layers need to be as well? Or could they be locally permissioned instead of globally permissioned? [2018-10-26 22:32:18] Sorry, I'm usually neck-deep in Monero fungibility and statistics. Digital assets is somewhat new interest/territory for me, so I'm still getting up to speed. 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All it sees are (valid) signatures. Maybe this is too decoupled, but allows maximum 2nd layer flexibility. So 2nd layer can be potentially designed to allow both permissioned and permissionless assets [2018-10-28 16:26:21] → jnsmk joined (~jnsmkabc@lfbn-1-18355-88.w90-101.abo.wanadoo.fr) [2018-10-28 17:39:38] ⇐ jnsmk quit (~jnsmkabc@lfbn-1-18355-88.w90-101.abo.wanadoo.fr): Ping timeout: 245 seconds [2018-10-28 19:47:18] → wahaha001 joined (~wahaha007@114.242.248.98) [2018-10-28 19:48:05] ⇐ wahaha001 quit (~wahaha007@114.242.248.98): Client Quit [2018-10-28 20:48:08] Sure, as long as the necessary primitives are present and supported on the base layer, which is our intention [2018-10-28 22:53:16] Awesome! That makes sense, and there are definitely use cases for both. :- ) [2018-10-29 02:26:01] ⇐ enigmisto quit (49effffa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.239.255.250): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-10-29 03:19:32] ⇐ Inge- quit (~inge@ti0051a400-1643.bb.online.no): Ping timeout: 272 seconds [2018-10-29 05:06:27] ⇐ antanst quit (~antanst@62.169.219.213): Ping timeout: 240 seconds [2018-10-29 05:21:22] ⇐ lessless quit (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless): Remote host closed the connection [2018-10-29 05:24:36] → lessless joined (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless) [2018-10-29 05:59:01] ⇐ lessless quit (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-10-29 06:02:18] → lessless joined (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless) [2018-10-29 06:26:43] → lessless_ joined (~lessless@116.102.12.190) [2018-10-29 07:51:48] → spedex joined (~Kake@dsl-hkibng22-54faa9-219.dhcp.inet.fi) [2018-10-29 08:35:44] → antanst joined (~antanst@62.169.219.213) [2018-10-29 08:53:12] > Typically the issue is running into computation scaling issues ... and if the process is permitted to stall [2018-10-29 08:53:12] sarang: aiui, DAGs only stall if there are conflicts, e.g. double-spend attempts, and it only stalls that tx. 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ZZZzzz… [2018-10-29 16:53:01] ⇐ kngako quit (9240080a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.64.8.10): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-10-29 18:36:08] → jnsmk joined (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-10-29 19:33:12] → spedex joined (~Kake@dsl-hkibng22-54faa9-219.dhcp.inet.fi) [2018-10-29 19:38:57] → kngako joined (c5b8a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.184.160.145) [2018-10-29 19:48:07] ⇐ kngako quit (c5b8a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.184.160.145): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-10-29 20:00:02] → kngako joined (c5b8a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.184.160.145) [2018-10-29 20:00:31] Let's kick off this 2nd Tari architecture discussion! Welcome to everyone from the far western and eastern hemispheres, who weren't up in the middle of the night for the first one :) [2018-10-29 20:02:11] ICYMI the logs from Thursday's chat are here: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/MyJRvustYF1Qt6dlpEIARg/raw [2018-10-29 20:05:53] I'd love to get some thoughts / ideas on what the 2nd layer (digital assets layer) might look like. The goals here are *scalability* and *speed*. We're willing to trade off decentralisation to achieve this. [2018-10-29 20:06:38] What about transparency? [2018-10-29 20:08:09] I've thought about this a bit and have refined by thinking around the comments I made above. Of the options for a 2nd layer, the design choice basically boil down to a choice for maintaining an overlay network, coupled with a consensus mechanism. [2018-10-29 20:08:39] Overlay network options: [2018-10-29 20:08:39] * Each node maintains a list of nodes, but no other information about it (e.g. Bitcoin); Node capabilities are [2018-10-29 20:08:39] obtained by querying peers. [2018-10-29 20:08:39] * Each node tracks it's "neighbourhood" of the network, and perhaps some metadata (e.g. DHT's like Kademlia) [2018-10-29 20:08:39] * Each node tries to maintain a full list of peers, along with information about which DAs each node is authorised to [2018-10-29 20:08:39] process instructions for. Queries about a specific DA can be routed directly to the node(s) that are tracking it. [2018-10-29 20:08:39] [2018-10-29 20:08:39] Consensus options: [2018-10-29 20:08:39] * A full second-layer blockchain. This is probably overkill and unlikely to achieve the speed and cost targets we would [2018-10-29 20:08:39] like, particularly if it's a proof-of-work blockchain. [2018-10-29 20:08:39] * State Channel network. Ideas like Plasma etc., are interesting, but are incredibly complex. Complexity increases the [2018-10-29 20:08:39] system's attack surface, and is more prone to failure and bugs. One feels that there are simpler and more elegant solutions [2018-10-29 20:08:39] to this problem. [2018-10-29 20:08:39] * "Permissioned" DAs. In this model, DA issuers must nominate (trusted) nodes to run their DAs for them. Specifying [2018-10-29 20:08:39] multiple nodes serves more as insurance against DoS attacks than protecting against Byzantine agents. Bonded [2018-10-29 20:08:39] contracts between issuer and nodes on the base layer can provide additional incentives to maintain uptime and honesty [2018-10-29 20:08:39] (though the incentive structure must be carefully thought out to prevent co-ordinated attacks by rogue asset issuers [2018-10-29 20:08:39] colluding with malicious nodes) [2018-10-29 20:08:39] * Directed Acyclic Graphs. DAG implementations, like Spectre, PARSEC, HoneyBadgerBFT etc. are an interesting [2018-10-29 20:08:39] possibility. DAGs have the potential to provide reasonable speed and scalability whilst still offering true BFT [2018-10-29 20:08:39] tolerance and thus promising a truly permissionless second layer. [2018-10-29 20:08:47] sarang: transparency? [2018-10-29 20:09:12] Of data on the chain and other layers [2018-10-29 20:10:17] If we use MimbleWimble, then all transactions are confidential [2018-10-29 20:10:19] DA = digital asset for anyone who is wondering [2018-10-29 20:10:59] (MW on base layer). On 2nd layer, there's room for debate. [2018-10-29 20:11:32] I can see a use case for "open" assets (ala Ethereum contracts) that are publicly readable [2018-10-29 20:12:23] Though I don't see why we couldn't also have private assets. You've probably heard fluffypony talk about "Privacy sliders" in Tari. [2018-10-29 20:13:06] as in the contracts are open or the ownership of the assets and their state is open? [2018-10-29 20:13:32] "privacy slider" makes me think of the sliding hole covers in prison cells. Not a great image to associate with. [2018-10-29 20:13:45] as in, their state is readable [2018-10-29 20:14:21] moneromoo: lol. TIL [2018-10-29 20:21:59] Maybe a good first step is to decide if the 2nd layer should have only a few very reliable / trustworthy nodes or many semi reliable / trustworthy nodes? [2018-10-29 20:22:19] → lurkinandlearnin joined (~lurkinand@2a02:c7d:b7d8:4100:592:8672:4af2:6a08) [2018-10-29 20:23:33] I think we have to assume that they are all not trustworthy [2018-10-29 20:24:07] By how much would the "privacy slider" increase the complexity of the possible consensus options? [2018-10-29 20:24:50] One approach is to build out the network in stages. Start with the "permissioned" system wherein nodes are defacto trusted, and once that's working expand to include untrusted nodes [2018-10-29 20:30:50] I think that we should start out assuming they are all untrustworthy and then only allow them to be incentivised if they act in a trustworthy manner [2018-10-29 20:31:22] With bonded contacts; it could be possible to determine the cost of an asset at creation and bond that amount - issuer with the nodes selected to service it? [2018-10-29 20:31:26] or maybe penalized if they don't? [2018-10-29 20:32:13] Nodes also stake something . Then we have balance between issuer and nodes [2018-10-29 20:34:35] Then as the DA contract is serviced through its lifetime costs are allocated to 2nd layer nodes that were involved? [2018-10-29 20:36:49] Good question, kngako. I haven't given the "full privacy" section of the privacy slider a ton of thought; we'd need to talk through some use cases in more detail [2018-10-29 20:39:00] Catching up was a bit late :D [2018-10-29 20:39:53] For tickets / in-game items etc, item owners would typically just look like public keys, and so would be basically anonymous unless the someone decided to prove ownership by singing something with the associated private key [2018-10-29 20:40:10] *signing [2018-10-29 20:40:51] Or if there was a rule requiring identity [2018-10-29 20:41:41] or something identifying at least [2018-10-29 20:42:02] Identity could be proven but still kept private if required I think [2018-10-29 20:42:14] > singing something with the associated private key [2018-10-29 20:42:29] [2018-10-29 20:42:29] in C#-minor [2018-10-29 20:42:47] Too much singing [2018-10-29 20:44:09] Cool, I'm with mikethetike on the assuming untrustworthiness. For a permissioned system, would the nomination of the set of trusted nodes have a mechanism to avoid "paying/kickbacks for nominations" scenarios? The node(s) who offer the most kickbacks will most likely get the most (recurring) nominations, or that should be considered as the system moves into a more trustless setup? [2018-10-29 20:44:30] Who would be the trusted nodes ? maintained by Tari legal entity ? [2018-10-29 20:44:46] → kopite7 joined (~kmaneshni@ip72-194-108-100.oc.oc.cox.net) [2018-10-29 20:45:11] nope [2018-10-29 20:45:13] No [2018-10-29 20:45:20] Tari wouldn't be involved at all. [2018-10-29 20:45:53] An asset issuer would say, when creating an asset, "I authorise nodes X,Y,Z to process instructions for this asset" [2018-10-29 20:46:05] I do not know about assuming un-trustworthiness at the outset [2018-10-29 20:46:06] I see that's already makes more sense [2018-10-29 20:46:50] Hmm... Cool. [2018-10-29 20:46:51] I think assuming complete untrustworthiness might slow down / be overkill [2018-10-29 20:47:02] Yip. I like the idea of bonding/trusting/authorizing. [2018-10-29 20:47:23] I think as with block rewards, it must be more profitable to provide valid data than to cheat the system. [2018-10-29 20:47:32] We could have nodes register on the base layer and post a bond. [2018-10-29 20:47:58] Each party to perform according to that bond [2018-10-29 20:48:08] What's cool about this is that the base layer acts as a registrar of 2nd layer nodes, but it's not a central authority :) [2018-10-29 20:49:33] what are usecases where total untrustworthiness would be required ? I agree that for ticket selling for a concert it's not required [2018-10-29 20:50:41] Do you mean "untrustworthiness would be assumed" or "untrustworthiness would be required"? [2018-10-29 20:51:09] I mean, where choosing "trusted" node to bootstrap would not be possible [2018-10-29 20:51:11] I think there are going to be cases where the issuer just doesn't know any of the nodes, hence will go with any set of nodes [2018-10-29 20:52:22] Low value assets can go with less trust, but not something like a rock concert [2018-10-29 20:53:33] Unless its something like Slipknot where the band members wear masks :P [2018-10-29 20:54:57] Let's say I'm an independant game designer making a card game and I want to issue them using Tari. I just have to choose a random set of peers, would that give me enough confidence about issuing my cards ? [2018-10-29 20:55:03] Choosing a specific set of nodes would probably be an advanced use case [2018-10-29 20:55:49] jnsmk: sure, if an asset issuer is authorising nodes, he's not going to randomly assign them. In permissioned mode, he's typically running the nodes himself / or knows who is. [2018-10-29 20:56:16] Yea that's what I thought, you basically setup your own set of nodes [2018-10-29 20:56:20] Things get more interesting in permissionless mode for sure. [2018-10-29 20:57:15] personally I would start with permissionless (if it were me creating the game) [2018-10-29 20:58:10] I cannot really think about a use case where trust will not be important. Lets take your card game example jnsmk. The nodes would liketo know they will get paid for their service through the lifetime of the game. The issuer would like to know the game asset will be serviced. That is a trusted setup, even if the nodes are not known. [2018-10-29 20:58:12] until there was big money involved [2018-10-29 21:00:18] @mikethetike why would you choose the permissionless ? [2018-10-29 21:00:40] @jnsmk: Great scenario. So what if you stated as a condition of managing your card assets that only nodes that have > N Tari in a bonded contract are eligible? [2018-10-29 21:01:08] That way, if anyone wants to cheat, they put an amount of Tari that you specify at risk [2018-10-29 21:02:27] Now, to compensate nodes for tying up Tari, and risking having their bonds slashed (though if they're honest, that risk is ~zero), they earn tiny fees for each instruction related to your card assets that they process? [2018-10-29 21:03:41] → ixside joined (uid328905@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-burfqowqjcufkndx) [2018-10-29 21:04:11] Since, there are multiple nodes managing your cards now, we need a consensus algo to keep all the state in sync (this is hard) and to catch out cheaters (also non-trivial); and is why the permissionless scenario is trickier than the trusted one [2018-10-29 21:05:09] ..but something we should have Tari handle, obviously :) [2018-10-29 21:05:59] so say I have this idea for *cryptokitties 2 - caturday night fever* - hypothetical of course - I don't know if it's going to work, and I don't really want to mess around with choosing issuers, because I don't know who's who, so I just put it out there for whoever wants to earn fees [2018-10-29 21:06:03] Part of the bond from the card game issuer to the authorized nodes could be a bonus payout at the end if the asset was serviced well, say ~10% of the total servicing cost [2018-10-29 21:06:43] @mikethetike: of course that's going to work! [2018-10-29 21:07:35] * choosing nodes, not *issuers* [2018-10-29 21:08:49] @mikethetike In the bonded scenario you would have to put up some Tari to issue the kitties, but you would not need to know who will service them [2018-10-29 21:10:01] What's the relative stake for the nodes if they're going to bond? [2018-10-29 21:11:42] The hour is up; but everyone is free to continue the discussion (please do). [2018-10-29 21:11:42] What I'd like to do is take the discussion from these first 2 sessions and work them up into something vaguely coherent and drop them as an RFCon Github. Then more focussed critiques and suggestions can happen via the PR system. How does that sound? [2018-10-29 21:11:54] Ok so the overall idea is : incentivizing unknown node to be honest by putting their stake at risk and being rewarded if they does a good job [2018-10-29 21:12:00] @krakaw Must be in equilibrium/pro-ratio with (a) the cost of servicing the asset during its life-time and (b) the perceived value of the asset. [2018-10-29 21:13:04] @jnsmk It would seem so yes, as an economic model that can be self sustained [2018-10-29 21:13:30] Bond/stakes is just one idea though right? there are other ways of reaching consensus/keep nodes honest [2018-10-29 21:13:50] — Hansie Hansie must do some chores now [2018-10-29 21:14:05] +1 on the RFC repo getting an update [2018-10-29 21:14:50] mike: Looking forward to hearing alternatives [2018-10-29 21:15:25] My last question would be : what about asset that would last a lifetime ? in the ratio you're talking about @Hansie [2018-10-29 21:15:25] Ah well I guess I'll keep this one for a PR then :D [2018-10-29 21:27:58] ⇐ kngako quit (c5b8a091@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.184.160.145): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-10-29 22:02:48] moneromooo: a slider is a GUI element [2018-10-29 22:03:18] most of the Google entries for "slider" are UI related [2018-10-29 22:03:32] Yes, I got that. [2018-10-29 22:04:09] I'm open to a better term, I've not heard of privacy sliders in prisons [2018-10-29 22:04:53] I don't know if it's the actual name. It's just the thing that came to my mind reading it :) [2018-10-29 22:06:14] ⇐ jnsmk quit (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr): Ping timeout: 272 seconds [2018-10-29 22:16:07] → jnsmk joined (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr) [2018-10-29 22:48:02] ⇐ jnsmk quit (~jnsmkabc@89-158-106-154.rev.numericable.fr): Ping timeout: 272 seconds [2018-10-29 23:13:36] I tend to think of mini hamburgers ... 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On one, we continue the philosophical / high-level discussion around the 2nd layer. In particular, Monday's chat posed a few good questions, that we should thrash out: [2018-11-01 11:07:03] * Configurable privacy in digital Assets. What are some use cases for private DAs in a public network? [2018-11-01 11:07:03] * Which configuration of network overlay & consensus algorithm will be the simplest, and still work? [2018-11-01 11:07:03] * Start to think about how the 2nd layer and base layer interact. [2018-11-01 11:07:03] * Long-lived vs short-lived digital assets? How does this influence the incentive / funding model? [2018-11-01 11:07:36] or reference, here's a summary of the conversation so far: https://github.com/tari-project/RFC/blob/4f929788409113ee4f1ac057000a4ff33388fedb/proposals/181029-overview.md [2018-11-01 11:08:27] — cjs77 takes a breath [2018-11-01 11:09:36] → minamoo joined (uid322540@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujshewmxjiortazc) [2018-11-01 11:11:12] Then on the other "branch", I'd love to solicit some opinions on some MimbleWimble implementation specifics: [2018-11-01 11:11:12] * Choice of ECC curve [2018-11-01 11:11:12] * in-memory DB and persistence strategy / DB choice [2018-11-01 11:11:12] * wire protocol choice [2018-11-01 11:11:12] * in-process communication options & threading models [2018-11-01 11:11:12] * use of dependencies [2018-11-01 11:11:12] * Anything else we've forgotten [2018-11-01 11:16:29] → stanimal joined (uid329347@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wsnzqasycpooablh) [2018-11-01 11:24:19] → xethron joined (~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron) [2018-11-01 11:29:46] So the choice of ECC curve is quite important and obviously we want to choose one that is secure in a mathematical sense but we also need it to be secure in terms of its implementation. What are the options being considered? [2018-11-01 11:31:37] Good background information here http://safecurves.cr.yp.to/ [2018-11-01 11:32:42] So there seem to be a number of options with green ticks across the board. Which have mature implementations available? [2018-11-01 11:34:37] When is it mature? There must be some metrics out there. [2018-11-01 11:34:48] 0p [2018-11-01 11:35:34] Suppose it might be more useful to start with asking which of those curves have Rust implementations available at all [2018-11-01 11:37:06] Not many.. curve25519 has one: https://github.com/dalek-cryptography/curve25519-dalek [2018-11-01 11:37:49] Obv secp256k1 is a strong contender, since it's used in Bitcoin+clones and pwuille's library is rock solid [2018-11-01 11:38:29] Monero uses curve25519 which has several well-documented advantages over secp256k1 (see the link Hansie posted) [2018-11-01 11:38:32] I suppose not all the green-tick-curves-across-the-board are compatible with Schnorr signatures? [2018-11-01 11:38:45] 🤷 [2018-11-01 11:40:33] But do we want to use a curve that might have security vulnerabilities when we can choice one that doesnt [2018-11-01 11:40:56] Curve41417 also has a few rust implementations [2018-11-01 11:41:00] imho, IsisLoveCruft's ed25519's library is the best Rust implementation (https://github.com/isislovecruft/ed25519-dalek?files=1). Question is: Is it battle-tested enough? [2018-11-01 11:42:20] neonknight: Is that curve used in any big projects? It's a new one to me [2018-11-01 11:42:22] so it's a protocol - not an implementation - decision, but if we're merge mining with Monero, won't we have to choose a curve25519 rust lib [2018-11-01 11:42:47] anyway [2018-11-01 11:43:49] I think that is independent though [2018-11-01 11:44:24] Blackwolfsa: On behalf of the bad guys who are too shy, I'm going to say yes [2018-11-01 11:44:51] That doesn't *force* us to choose it for TariMW (though it is a string argument in favour of it) [2018-11-01 11:45:32] @fluffypony wdyt? [2018-11-01 11:47:14] `thread::spawn(move || { db.choice? });` [2018-11-01 11:47:38] sqlite? [2018-11-01 11:47:59] I'm going to some out and say it, LMDB seems the clear winner. _[citations abound]_ [2018-11-01 11:48:09] The dalek library and mimblewimble aren't in the same fantasy universes. Is that going to be a problem? [2018-11-01 11:48:15] but open to alternatives [2018-11-01 11:48:48] mikethetike: crossover movie incoming! [2018-11-01 11:49:18] Curve41417 seem to be a new generation curve from Daniel J. Bernstein, with higher security than curve25519, but I cant find who actually uses it. [2018-11-01 11:49:19] :D [2018-11-01 11:49:40] Solved problem: https://www.wattpad.com/story/3291555-harry-potter-and-the-secrets-untold-harry-potter [2018-11-01 11:52:47] LMDB seems like the winner. It is difficult to compare them, as you cant trust any of the online benchmarks testing key store libraries. [2018-11-01 11:53:02] That also solves any future cross-over problems. We can just write our own fanfic as required [2018-11-01 11:56:37] neonknight: there is pure-Rust implementation of Curve41417 https://github.com/seb-m/curve41417.rs [2018-11-01 11:56:54] we could be the first to use it :"This code is experimental, don't use it for anything real." Are blockchains even real? [2018-11-01 12:02:17] To answer one of @cjs77 questions: Use case for "Configurable privacy in digital Assets". Could be in a game, where you not not want the opposition to know what resources you have. [2018-11-01 12:02:55] I don't know much about LMDB, but I always run into issues with SQLite not supporting some critical feature in SQL [2018-11-01 12:03:25] ⇐ xethron quit (~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron): Quit: WeeChat 2.2 [2018-11-01 12:03:49] Hansie: Also, if an asset is very valuable you might well not want people to know you have it as it could make you a target [2018-11-01 12:04:17] People can come to your house [2018-11-01 12:05:10] sure, though there are many vectors for remote attack [2018-11-01 12:05:46] I think "Configurable privacy in digital Assets" is a good idea [2018-11-01 12:06:29] "use cases of privacy in DAs": could apply for ICOs and STOs (if ever they take off) [2018-11-01 12:06:44] → xethron joined (~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron) [2018-11-01 12:08:10] That would be the default setting for all digital assets, I would think. ala MW, ownership would be governed by a public-private keypair, which is unique for each transaction. So it would be hard to link a pubkey to any given individual. Making an asset "public" would then be opt-in, where a known identity would sign a message with the token's private key [2018-11-01 13:31:11] I don't think the current security level of 25519 is really in serious question at this point [2018-11-01 13:31:44] and with 41417 you still inherit some of the annoying quirks (like subgroup cofactor) from 25519 anyway [2018-11-01 15:24:45] cjs77: I like ed25519-dalek / curve25519-dalek [2018-11-01 15:24:56] plus we'll be able to tell people that Tari was created by Isis [2018-11-01 15:26:03] suggested reading is: https://whispersystems.org/docs/specifications/xeddsa/ [2018-11-01 15:26:23] that's how the MRL first spotted the subgroup cofactor stuff that sarang is referring to [2018-11-01 15:26:31] Those are great libraries; and have the features we'd need for some of the fun signature aggregation stuff / digital asset signing [2018-11-01 15:27:05] She does post a warning about them only having had one security audit though [2018-11-01 15:27:47] maybe we can organise another one [2018-11-01 15:27:51] I'll chat to her [2018-11-01 15:34:15] k sent a message to her and Henry de Valence [2018-11-01 15:40:32] yeah the dalek libraries are very good [2018-11-01 15:42:42] ⇐ xethron quit (~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron): Ping timeout: 268 seconds [2018-11-01 15:53:57] Are there any objections / thoughts on using anything OTHER than LMDB for the key-value store? I can dig up a few comparison blogs if anyone wants to read more [2018-11-01 15:54:16] btw, it looks like Grin has switched to LMDB from rocksDB [2018-11-01 15:57:55] only on the wallet, or on blockchain storage too? 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[2018-11-05 08:29:22] The question relates to what we'd need to do as a community to help pool operators support Tari merge mining [2018-11-05 09:22:25] → AlexAnarcho joined (~AlexAnarc@2a02:8070:a2a6:6b00:d033:20e9:ee53:fb2a) [2018-11-05 09:46:51] ⇐ victorSN quit (~victorSN@unaffiliated/victorsn): Remote host closed the connection [2018-11-05 09:49:56] → xethron joined (~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron) [2018-11-05 10:28:04] → xehtron2 joined (~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron) [2018-11-05 10:29:13] ⇐ xethron quit (~Xethron@unaffiliated/xethron): Ping timeout: 245 seconds [2018-11-05 10:45:22] → victorSN joined (~victorSN@unaffiliated/victorsn) [2018-11-05 10:46:18] * xehtron2 → Xethron [2018-11-05 11:23:15] ⇐ p0nziph0ne quit (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne): Ping timeout: 252 seconds [2018-11-05 11:23:20] → p0nziph0ne_ joined (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne) [2018-11-05 11:30:48] cjs77: there are two main pool software. A couple pools use custom code. 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[2018-11-05 20:10:23] Any links? [2018-11-05 20:10:40] hey [2018-11-05 20:12:16] https://github.com/zone117x/node-cryptonote-pool is the original one, not sure what fork is the most current one though. [2018-11-05 20:12:35] sammy007 will know [2018-11-05 20:12:48] anything specific on the agenda tonight? [2018-11-05 20:13:28] Evening [2018-11-05 20:14:21] There are a couple of active topics: [2018-11-05 20:14:21] * Monero mining pools -- and what we'd need to provide to help them support Tari merge mining [2018-11-05 20:14:38] Rollover from From last week: [2018-11-05 20:14:46] Snipa wrote the other pool software and hangs out in #monero-pools [2018-11-05 20:15:17] * wire protocol choice [2018-11-05 20:15:17] * in-process communication options & threading models [2018-11-05 20:15:17] * use of dependencies in code [2018-11-05 20:15:21] I guess it's somewhere on github [2018-11-05 20:15:26] Thanks nioc [2018-11-05 20:18:12] ITO wore protocol, I've been doing some reading and there are a coupla alternatives: [2018-11-05 20:18:12] * NIH - I believe Grin went this route [2018-11-05 20:18:12] * gRPC - great cross platform support [2018-11-05 20:18:12] * zMQ - hands down winner imho [2018-11-05 20:20:02] Zmq is also good for your second point? Interprocess comms and threading? [2018-11-05 20:21:29] gRPC well supported in rust? What was the reason grin went with http? [2018-11-05 20:22:11] gRPC and zMQ have rust bindings.. [2018-11-05 20:23:28] neonknight: I really think it can be. Rust has some alternatives, like mio, tokio (which is built on mio), Actix (which is built on tokio). [2018-11-05 20:23:28] So the problem is: it's really one stack (Rust is possibly not mature enough to have a suite of options); mio and tokio aren't that easy to use; but Actix has a HUGE number of dependencies. Whereas ZMQ is simple, does the job; does it incredibly well; and let's you build on top of it without much fuss [2018-11-05 20:24:23] The docs for actix-web are not bad, but for actix itself, they are very bare [2018-11-05 20:25:40] 8 out of 11 pages of the user guide just say "[WIP]" [2018-11-05 20:25:41] Tokio is also very dependancy heavy [2018-11-05 20:26:04] I'm a big fan of 0MQ [2018-11-05 20:26:11] ⇐ minamoo quit (uid322540@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mllzztfjrhqcpiof): Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [2018-11-05 20:26:12] and vtnerd has done great work integrating it in Monero [2018-11-05 20:26:19] he can give input in to that experience [2018-11-05 20:27:23] So to step back a sec; I like the idea of using message passing (even internally) because it allows for a very decoupled architecture; the question is that if this is the approach to take, is zmQ / 0mq performant enough on its `inproc` sockets to use a sinlge library for both "internal" and external messaging? [2018-11-05 20:28:04] so like microservices? [2018-11-05 20:28:15] yup [2018-11-05 20:28:45] maybe not per the strict definition (like the modules would still run on the same box for performance) [2018-11-05 20:30:20] but, if you _wanted_ to run the e.g. block validator module on a different machine to the mempool (I don't know why you would, but hey), you could change `inproc` to `tcp` and off you go (more or less) [2018-11-05 20:32:43] What did monero use before 0mq [2018-11-05 20:33:35] — cjs77 gathers around the fireplace to listen to fluffypony regale us with tales of yore [2018-11-05 20:34:36] Hi there [2018-11-05 20:35:47] zMQ: Inter plaform - yes, inter process - yes, inner process - maybe [2018-11-05 20:36:19] mikethetike: JSON over HTTP [2018-11-05 20:36:22] it still supports that [2018-11-05 20:36:33] and the CLI wallet still talks to the daemon over that [2018-11-05 20:36:36] A couple of simple spike tests will tell if zMQ can handle all three. If so, good [2018-11-05 20:36:42] but it's not really IPC, it's more RPC [2018-11-05 20:36:58] Yeah, it's the "maybe" I'm looking to see if anyone has some definitive experience on [2018-11-05 20:38:59] https://grokbase.com/t/zeromq/zeromq-dev/102s8rzsvs/inter-thread-zmq-inproc-performance [2018-11-05 20:39:04] that looks positive [2018-11-05 20:39:39] http://zeromq.org/results:perf-howto [2018-11-05 20:39:50] To run an inter-thread latency test, use inproc_lat instead of the above. It is a single executable and doesn't require specifying an endpoint: [2018-11-05 20:40:02] To run an inter-thread throughput test, use inproc_thr instead of the above. It is a single executable and doesn't require specifying an endpoint: [2018-11-05 20:41:10] That looks great, actually. [2018-11-05 20:41:28] I suppose we'll still need to expose parts of the API via http for android wallets etc [2018-11-05 20:41:40] or can 0mq do that natively [2018-11-05 20:42:03] mikethetike: Android can talk via 0MQ over TCP [2018-11-05 20:42:05] I did some tests on the mac using `tcp` loopback last week and got 10,000,000 messages/sec throughput, so even that is pretty quick [2018-11-05 20:42:10] there are bindings for Java [2018-11-05 20:42:18] noice [2018-11-05 20:42:56] My experience is with ACE TAO Corba (The ACE Orb) - real-time Corba. The native OS messaging infrastructure (semaphore, WaitForSingleObject, etc.) was more efficient for inner process communication. Seems to be a heavier implementation than zMQ though. [2018-11-05 20:43:14] If we have LMDB as a key-value store and 0mq as a the message broker, I think we have a little pocket rocket on ur hands [2018-11-05 20:45:26] yuuuuup [2018-11-05 20:45:35] hyc would be so proud [2018-11-05 20:45:37] *wipes tear* [2018-11-05 20:45:51] btw Googling "corba rust implementation" doesn't come up with anything [2018-11-05 20:46:41] LMDB + zMQ 0MG sounds good, but the proof is in the pudding. I am a fan of a couple of small spike projects to proof. [2018-11-05 20:46:42] lol corba [2018-11-05 20:49:04] Yeah, we can pull up some tests. fluffy's link had some benchmark code references [2018-11-05 20:50:05] Ok, great progress on this front. It also implicitly addresses the dependency issue. [2018-11-05 20:50:18] .. implicitly to some degree [2018-11-05 20:51:01] cjs77: so in Monero we've had to submodule some deps for building static bins [2018-11-05 20:51:09] how does Rust handle deps? [2018-11-05 20:51:29] Cargo is a packagae manager ala npm for node [2018-11-05 20:51:55] but you can also cargo a submodule if needed [2018-11-05 20:52:08] compiling in rust is (99% of the time) as simple as `cargo build` [2018-11-05 20:52:17] ok but then is there static and dynamic binding like with C? [2018-11-05 20:52:25] nah, everything is a crate [2018-11-05 20:52:35] are crates binary packages or source code? [2018-11-05 20:52:39] but a crate can be a gtihub link to specific commit for example [2018-11-05 20:52:47] crates are source [2018-11-05 20:52:47] source code [2018-11-05 20:52:53] ah ok so it always builds every dep [2018-11-05 20:53:01] but you can also build a dynamic linkable binary I believe [2018-11-05 20:53:05] let's hope we never have boost for rust :-P [2018-11-05 20:53:39] dynamic libraries and DLLs were always a dumb idea, imho [2018-11-05 20:53:40] I think compiling from source is what we'll be doing most of the time though [2018-11-05 20:53:52] DLL hell is a real thing for developers [2018-11-05 20:54:24] afaik even something ike 0mq, which are rust wrappers around the C library, will build the C code as part of the build, but I may be worng [2018-11-05 20:54:41] kk [2018-11-05 20:55:36] I do think we need to be careful about which dependencies we use [2018-11-05 20:56:24] fluffypony: I def looks like Rust expects `libssl` and `libc` to be on your system at runtime, so there are still a few dynamic linked libs. This is by default, and I suspect you could force linking those in too if you wished [2018-11-05 20:56:27] otherwise we'll be reviewing code in those repos forever [2018-11-05 20:57:02] mikethetike: agreed. Wich is why the ability to freeze crate versions or even commit versions is a nice feature [2018-11-05 20:57:34] yeah like submodules are at a commit hash [2018-11-05 20:57:35] so same but different [2018-11-05 20:57:36] cjs77: I guess libssl is pretty standard by now [2018-11-05 20:58:33] I like the ability to link to certain commit versions. [2018-11-05 20:58:51] → thecyrax joined (~yaaic@197.99.24.125) [2018-11-05 20:58:51] I think we should limit the number of dependencies to the bare minimum. It will be crazy to reinvent the wheel every time. [2018-11-05 20:59:11] fluffypony: yeah, on any standard system (and we supply instructions for things like building a docker image on alpine linux, for example) [2018-11-05 21:00:06] neonknight: it sounds like part b is contradicting part a? [2018-11-05 21:00:39] lol [2018-11-05 21:00:59] it's a thing! :) [2018-11-05 21:01:21] Hehhe It is late in South Africa, some dependencies are better than none. [2018-11-05 21:01:37] kk. gotcha [2018-11-05 21:04:50] neonknight: Yes, we should invent tokens not wheels [2018-11-05 21:05:02] Yeah, walk the line. Audit every dependency. Really evaluate whether the risks << the benefits, and go for battle-hardened, proven technologies where available. It's hubris to think we could improve on libraries that have millions of CPU hours behind them, but also it's folly to chuck in a lib with 50 dependencies just to save 2 lines of boilerplate code here and there. [2018-11-05 21:05:40] agreed [2018-11-05 21:05:42] there's the argument one ends up maintaining any dependency anyway [2018-11-05 21:05:58] Also no auto-updating of dependencies [2018-11-05 21:06:02] If sense is with us sanity will prevail [2018-11-05 21:06:18] ⇐ ixside quit (uid328905@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-burfqowqjcufkndx): Quit: Connection closed for inactivity [2018-11-05 21:06:22] https://media1.tenor.com/images/c50ce40d1d2801c2241b1a7baa713b49/tenor.gif?itemid=5473072 [2018-11-05 21:08:40] cjs77: https://github.com/Snipa22/nodejs-pool [2018-11-05 21:08:58] This has been a really cool discussion. I think we've actually covered most of the major points on the MimbleWimble layer; so I'll collect the summary into a proposal doc and push it to Github in the next day or two [2018-11-05 21:09:33] awseome, thanks @noic [2018-11-05 21:09:39] @nioc [2018-11-05 21:09:49] :) [2018-11-05 21:10:49] fwiw I'm willing to bet that 0mq on `inproc` is faster than any equivalent nodejs implementation :) [2018-11-05 21:11:26] ^ Using `EventEmitter` [2018-11-05 21:17:08] ⇐ vtnerd quit (~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com): Ping timeout: 245 seconds [2018-11-05 21:19:59] → vtnerd joined (~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com) [2018-11-05 21:21:57] ⇐ vtnerd quit (~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com): Excess Flood [2018-11-05 21:26:59] → vtnerd joined (~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com) [2018-11-05 21:28:02] ⇐ thecyrax quit (~yaaic@197.99.24.125): Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org [2018-11-05 21:28:48] ⇐ vtnerd quit (~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com): Excess Flood 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about 6.5million messages/sec on a PUB-SUB socket on IPC (for some reason InProc is much slower) vs. 10mil on mpsc. A simple REQ-REP roundtrip carries ~200k msg/sec on InProc; I'm guessing this can be substantially improved by employing something other than a naiive blocking "server" [2018-11-07 16:59:57] running on a single thread. [2018-11-07 17:01:49] wow InProc is slower than IPC? 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It might be the Rust wrapper / or I implemented it in a non-optimal way (most likely). [2018-11-08 11:04:07] → thecyrax joined (c0e62d83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.230.45.131) [2018-11-08 11:04:09] In any event, ZMQ doesn't look like it will be the bottleneck [2018-11-08 11:07:05] Onto the architecture discussion; we seem to be converging on this idea of a MimbleWimble base layer merge-mined with Monero; and a fast second layer handling digital assets [2018-11-08 11:14:48] Has there been any thought to the options for BFT on the second layer. Which ones are "fast"? [2018-11-08 11:17:26] On the 2nd layer, there's no need for every 2nd-layer node to validate every instruction wrt to every digital asset that exists on the network. I'd argue that it's a necessary (and desirable tbh) trade off to offer up some decentralisation to gain speed. With that said, what about this (very rough) idea: [2018-11-08 11:17:26] - A user/wallet submits an instruction to the network (Transfer 100 Tari to (output) for this token on DA #ta123) [2018-11-08 11:17:26] - A 2nd-layer node picks up the instruction and looks up in a hash table that it's keeping in sync with it's peers, which Nodes are responsible for executing transactions for that asset [2018-11-08 11:17:26] - It relays the instruction (via the messaging layer, which might go via Tor, I2P, or whatever) to those node(s). [2018-11-08 11:17:26] - The node(s) execute the instruction and reach consensus on the new state for DA #ta123 (consensus mechanism TBD) [2018-11-08 11:17:26] - Every so often, 2nd-layer nodes bundle up the asset state into a merkle tree and post a checkpoint transaction onto the base layer [2018-11-08 11:19:43] I believe we need to look at some kind of "offline" solution here for speed, because we are looking at very high throughput for some scenarios we cant rely on the slow speed of the blockchain for each transaction [2018-11-08 11:19:56] offline as in? [2018-11-08 11:21:12] Not requiring input from the blockchain each time. I am thinking perhaps almost like lightning network operates, but not in a channel between 2 peer's but more than that [2018-11-08 11:21:25] I forgot to mention In Step 2, the node would have to check that the Tari transfer is a valid base layer transaction too. This leads to a question around payment channels on the 2nd layer, since if there's a ~1:1 Tari transaction for each asset instruction, that won't scale if every Tari tx has to be reflected on the base layer. [2018-11-08 11:21:43] balckwolfsa: you mean offchain :) [2018-11-08 11:21:58] So how do nodes indicate they are responsible for processing a specific DA? Do they opt in on certain assets or does the network dish the responsibility out? [2018-11-08 11:23:28] Maybe something like how the tor hidden services have a meeting point? [2018-11-08 11:23:47] If multiple 2nd layer nodes can provide a verifiable history of a token, then you probably do not have to query the block chain [2018-11-08 11:24:48] In the early days, I wouldn't be surprised if asset issuers would want the ability to authorise specific nodes to handle their assets; so we should support that. But we should also introduce a mechanism for nodes to opt in in some way so that Tari is also a permissionless network [2018-11-08 11:24:54] yes, but you need to have a way of dealing with funds. Someone needs to pay some fee for modify/transfer of tokens. Those require tari, which requires base layer [2018-11-08 11:26:43] @cjs77, @mikethetike, what about either you chose your own specific nodes(on their keys), or the network choses specific nodes for you(in some non deterministic way)? [2018-11-08 11:26:44] With the second layer running out of step with the first layer, the fees might need to be prepaid/locked up before you can invoke second layer actions [2018-11-08 11:27:35] That would be fine with for example tickets. We know they will be redeemed once, so we can lock those up before hand with the ticket. But what about transfer or modify [2018-11-08 11:28:01] will the node opt-in include some sort of Tari token staking? [2018-11-08 11:28:33] It has to be expensive to 51% attack an asset on the second layer [2018-11-08 11:30:38] so staking could work (although staking sounds like proof of stake, which is different) [2018-11-08 11:30:43] Staking is important, it should be expensive enough to limit bad players from spawning many bad nodes but cheap enough so you have multiple nodes storing the same data to create redundancy. [2018-11-08 11:32:56] I was thinking of this vector: DA1 chooses Node2 & Node4. Node4 says he is available to handle the asset, a few mins after DA1 chooses Node4, the node suddenly disappears. Leaving DA1 with eggface [2018-11-08 11:33:30] mikethetike: maybe we call it something else then so it doesn't sound like POS 😋 [2018-11-08 11:34:29] let's call it bail money :D [2018-11-08 11:34:32] collateral :) [2018-11-08 11:34:59] collateral is good [2018-11-08 11:35:34] tk: DA1 needs to trust the nodes though, right?. Permissioned networks are not trustless. [2018-11-08 11:38:22] I think for the simple hobbiest wanting to earn some fees, they will just download a 2nd node binary and select a bunch of assets from a select box [2018-11-08 11:38:34] ok true. But whether trustless or trust(ful?), is Tari thinking of staki......collateral? [2018-11-08 11:40:13] So collateral has two uses, punishing a detected bad actor but also, as neonknight said, making it expensive to conduct a sybil attack [2018-11-08 11:42:22] The assets on the 2nd layer should only go live when there has been a valid transaction to the base layer confirming the conditions, i.e. which 2nd layer nodes will serve the asset, bonded contracts between the asset issuer and the 2nd layer nodes, etc. So even the simple hobbiest will have to pay something. [2018-11-08 11:44:05] tk.. the "slow" base layer will use PoW, while the "fast" 2nd layer will use Collateral locked using the bonded contracts [2018-11-08 11:44:51] 👍 [2018-11-08 11:47:28] So does the asset issuer choose how much collateral is needed for the nodes to process their asset? [2018-11-08 11:48:00] I think so yes? [2018-11-08 11:48:42] Will need to make it easy for them so will need to express some sort of risk profile based on the value of the assets in question [2018-11-08 11:51:27] Will probably also be a trade off of how much risk they want to take (i.e. the number of nodes that need to validate every instruction on their asset and the amount of collateral they have put up) vs the speed at which an asset needs to be processed [2018-11-08 11:52:11] I assume this will be time based? [2018-11-08 11:52:58] Now that is an interesting point...consensus on time in a distributed network is a bit tricky... [2018-11-08 11:53:00] otherwise eventually the fees I'm earning are above my collateral [2018-11-08 11:53:36] I meant more like, after a few months, my stake is returned to me [2018-11-08 11:54:06] and I have to put down collateral again [2018-11-08 11:54:19] potentially at a higher price [2018-11-08 11:55:18] hmm does the fact that you have made a profit (more fees earned that collateral) reduce the disincentive of losing your collateral? That would be a relative thing vs how much you total capital is and we cannot know that. [2018-11-08 11:55:55] if you have 1 000 000 tari in the bank and the collateral was 100 tari, you earn 110 tari in fees. Is the disincentive much less? [2018-11-08 11:58:31] For how long should the Collateral be locked, the lifetime of an asset? Probably ok for tickets but not for game assets.. [2018-11-08 11:58:59] colleteral should be more than the fees, risk /reward should be > 1 [2018-11-08 12:01:00] neonknight: assuming the notion of asset lifetime is clearly defined, I'd argue collateral is locked up for lifetime + ΔT [2018-11-08 12:02:01] ΔT might be a few weeks or months -- the right amount of time is something that needs to be modelled [2018-11-08 12:02:57] we could always do checkpoint + ΔT [2018-11-08 13:29:09] ⇐ thecyrax quit (c0e62d83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.230.45.131): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-11-08 13:32:53] ⇐ AlexAnarcho quit (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149): Ping timeout: 276 seconds [2018-11-08 14:55:54] → el00ruobuob joined (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50) [2018-11-08 14:57:21] ⇐ el00ruobuob_[m] quit (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50): Ping timeout: 252 seconds [2018-11-08 15:11:45] → AlexAnarcho joined (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149) [2018-11-08 15:26:46] → unknownids joined (unknownids@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/unknownids) [2018-11-08 16:02:02] ⇐ moneromooo quit (fluffypony@unaffiliated/moneromooo): *.net *.split [2018-11-08 16:08:46] → spedex joined (~Kake@dsl-hkibng22-54faa9-219.dhcp.inet.fi) [2018-11-08 17:03:52] → moneromooo joined (fluffypony@unaffiliated/moneromooo) [2018-11-08 18:10:35] → el00ruobuob_[m] joined (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50) [2018-11-08 18:12:27] ⇐ el00ruobuob quit (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50): Ping timeout: 240 seconds [2018-11-08 18:17:34] ⇐ AlexAnarcho quit (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149): Read error: Connection reset by peer [2018-11-08 18:58:43] → p0nziph0ne_ joined (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne) [2018-11-08 19:00:45] ⇐ p0nziph0ne quit (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne): Ping timeout: 252 seconds [2018-11-08 19:17:57] ⇐ el00ruobuob_[m] quit (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50): Ping timeout: 268 seconds [2018-11-08 19:23:08] ⇐ spedex quit (~Kake@dsl-hkibng22-54faa9-219.dhcp.inet.fi): Quit: Leaving [2018-11-08 19:35:20] * p0nziph0ne_ → p0nziph0ne [2018-11-09 02:27:07] ⇐ lessless quit (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-11-09 02:29:43] → lessless joined (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless) [2018-11-09 08:47:05] → stanimal joined (uid329347@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arsdxwlxosfgpcga) [2018-11-09 09:43:54] → AlexAnarcho joined (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149) [2018-11-09 10:43:02] → el00ruobuob_[m] joined (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50) [2018-11-09 11:01:44] http://woke.mw/ [2018-11-09 11:01:46] we should fork that [2018-11-09 11:01:56] h/t json_ [2018-11-09 12:07:55] ⇐ el00ruobuob_[m] quit (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50): Ping timeout: 250 seconds [2018-11-09 12:19:19] → el00ruobuob_[m] joined (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50) [2018-11-09 12:25:28] ⇐ AlexAnarcho quit (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149): Quit: Leaving [2018-11-09 13:21:28] → el00ruobuob joined (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50) [2018-11-09 13:25:18] ⇐ el00ruobuob_[m] quit (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50): Ping timeout: 272 seconds [2018-11-09 15:14:46] → AlexAnarcho joined (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149) [2018-11-09 15:23:56] → sakhi joined (~sakhilouw@41.13.16.205) [2018-11-09 15:58:18] ⇐ sakhi quit (~sakhilouw@41.13.16.205): Ping timeout: 252 seconds [2018-11-09 16:15:20] agreed [2018-11-09 16:15:51] exceptional game-theory [2018-11-09 16:20:36] ⇐ AlexAnarcho quit (~AlexAnarc@37.44.7.149): Read error: Connection reset by peer [2018-11-09 17:28:37] → kicoo joined (~kicoo@unaffiliated/kico) [2018-11-09 17:30:35] → kicoo_ joined (~kicoo@unaffiliated/kico) [2018-11-09 17:31:13] ⇐ kico quit (~kicoo@unaffiliated/kico): Ping timeout: 246 seconds [2018-11-09 17:33:04] ⇐ kicoo quit (~kicoo@unaffiliated/kico): Ping timeout: 244 seconds [2018-11-09 17:34:21] * kicoo_ → kico [2018-11-09 18:47:27] ⇐ lessless quit (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless): Ping timeout: 256 seconds [2018-11-09 18:51:04] → lessless joined (~lessless@gateway/tor-sasl/lessless) [2018-11-09 18:59:14] → p0nziph0ne_ joined (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne) [2018-11-09 19:00:23] ⇐ p0nziph0ne quit (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne): Ping timeout: 244 seconds [2018-11-09 19:05:13] → juju2 joined (~gaia@pD9E277C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [2018-11-09 19:50:14] ⇐ el00ruobuob quit (~el00ruobu@212.121.161.50): Ping timeout: 250 seconds [2018-11-09 20:10:23] * p0nziph0ne_ → p0nziph0ne [2018-11-09 22:35:13] ⇐ victorSN quit (~victorSN@unaffiliated/victorsn): Quit: Leaving ... but you never know maybe I come back! 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I propose that a widely used space-efficient binary format is best: options include MessagePack, BSON, protobuf, Cap'n Proto [2018-11-10 11:24:29] thoughts? It should be widely implemented in other languages to make it easier for ployglot implementations. Something akin to gRPC's spec as implementation is even better [2018-11-10 11:31:15] hyc mentioned ASN1 several times. [2018-11-10 12:59:56] So aiui ASN1 is the spec language, and one can choose from several encoding rules (XML, JSON, binary) to actually represent the ASN.1 documents [2018-11-10 13:00:13] → el00ruobuob joined (~el00ruobu@blabour.fr) [2018-11-10 13:09:37] I think it kinda implies binary (three variants). [2018-11-10 13:31:29] After a shallow dive, it seems ASN.1-DER is solid and could the job, but existing rust support looks a bit iffy and/or stale. In particular, I couldn't find a `serde-asn1` crate; and exisiting asn1 crates aren't actively maintained (https://rust.libhunt.com/compare-serde-vs-rust-asn1). Are there strong technical reasons to use ASN.1? If not, I'm leaning toward using something out of the serde box. [2018-11-10 13:31:29] PS. why serde? Becuase it's basically a defacto standard in Rust and using serde makes it easier to swap out things if we decide to [2018-11-10 13:33:14] You'll have to ask hyc. He said a few times it'd be nice for monero to replace P2P comms encoding. 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[2018-11-12 17:44:39] → fluffypony joined (fluffypony@unaffiliated/fluffypony) [2018-11-12 17:44:39] * ChanServ set +o fluffypony [2018-11-12 18:33:04] → unknownids_ joined (~unknownid@unaffiliated/unknownids) [2018-11-12 18:33:40] ⇐ unknownids quit (~unknownid@unaffiliated/unknownids): Ping timeout: 264 seconds [2018-11-12 18:57:46] → p0nziph0ne joined (p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne) [2018-11-12 19:56:02] → cardboardoranges joined (~cardboard@65.112.8.206) [2018-11-12 19:56:09] I do hope this is the place [2018-11-12 19:57:56] hey hey @cardboardorabges [2018-11-12 19:58:13] I hang out with the monero folks in general, but I wanna hear your chat today [2018-11-12 19:58:17] Welcome [2018-11-12 19:58:23] exicted to hear what you’ve been working on :) [2018-11-12 19:59:31] :) [2018-11-12 20:00:09] → shillo joined (~shillosop@unaffiliated/shillosopher) [2018-11-12 20:00:14] ⇐ unknownids_ quit (~unknownid@unaffiliated/unknownids): Read error: Connection reset by peer [2018-11-12 20:01:36] We've been throwing some ideas around about how the Tari 2nd layer might work. So base layer = PoW, merge-mined with Monero, handles Tari coin transfers. 2nd Layer = Digital assets layer. [2018-11-12 20:01:54] → unknownids joined (unknownids@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/unknownids) [2018-11-12 20:02:53] nice [2018-11-12 20:03:05] cardboardoranges: you can quickly catch up by scanning the archive for the last week or so [2018-11-12 20:03:19] how do I do that [2018-11-12 20:03:29] is there a pstebin somewhere [2018-11-12 20:03:39] One sec. [2018-11-12 20:03:47] ← You left the channel: [2018-11-12 20:04:04] → Joined channel #tari-dev [2018-11-12 20:04:04] * ChanServ set +o cjs77 [2018-11-12 20:04:04] * Channel mode is +cnrt